computer start up issues

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

when i turn it on mostly nothing beeps, no HD's spin, the CPU fan blows and mostly no keybaord lights and nothing on the screen. you can see most of this in the video i posted. If time this evening will try without the grahpics card, if i am able to. then i will delte the drivers and see what happens. thanks

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:12 am Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

ok rolled back the driver, made no difference. swapped power cables to graphics card, still nothing, and pulled it out and had a look at it. Both that and the MB seem in good condition with nothing looking damaged or burnt. It turns out i dont have a built in graphics card, so cant do anything there. only thing i can do is to put a new drive in with windows disk and see what happens.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:08 am Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

Arrrghhh. This is starting to annoy me now.

IF YOU CAN'T BOOT TO THE BIOS POST, WINDOWS AND WINDOWS DRIVERS HAVE ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL TO DO WITH IT. IT'S A HARDWARE PROBLEM. Evil or Very Mad

OK, I feel better now.

Remove everything from the Mobo except CPU, Memory, PSU Connections, Power SwitchReset button and Graphics Card. If it still won't boot to BIOS POST then the hardware is fucked. My guess is the Mobo, but it could be any of the items listed.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:20 am Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

oh ok. remove all but CPU? otherwise if i remove everything apart from all you listed, then i am removing nothing lol. Ok, will have to try that next week as i dont have my manual to hand and i'm away again this weekend. the manual is back at old flat. Its odd why it should mess up like this as i';ve had no problems or ussues wit the computer, its been working fine for ages. cheers

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

I'm presuming that you have hard drives, optical drives, USB and other shit connected to the Mobo, so the idea is to remove all non-essential (to BIOS POST) items to see if it will POST. My list was of things NOT to remove, i.e. are essential. Depending on your memory layout you may be able to remove one pair of DIMMS.

One thing I forgot, and you haven't mentioned it yet, may be to remove and reseat CPU, but you will have to refit the heatsink with a MINIMAL smear of heat transfer paste.

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

oh god, i hate messing with teh CPU, always cut my fingers on the fan. I was hoping it was ok as it is temprimental and easily overheats if there is something wrong. As its not overheated this time, i'm thinking its fine. I can try removing most things tonight and see what happens. groan what a pain!

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

ps an odd feature is that when it first loads it freezes or i get some kinda graphics card error/effect on the screen, strange pixeling. But once it has worked once, i can restart the machine and its ok. its almost as if it needs to warm up first, starter motor bust?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

i know, i think he may already have. i do put silver goo stuff on like nutella on toast. but it always works for me. but will have to try thos things next week etc i'm afraid to say.

went to antwerp at the weekend, very nice. especialy if you like beer and chocolate, oh and women who dance in windows.. Very odd, i dont know what that is all about.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

The blather about drivers and windows updates was annoying me as it's irrelevant when you can't even boot to the BIOS POST.

TBH this is the worst thing about helping folks with PC problems, when they or their "friends" have been in there trying to fix it following something they found on the intarweb, they invariable screw things up even more. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Anyway I've now vented my wrath on the dog and the kids and am back to my usual amiable self. Wink

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

its hard also because written instructions are not the same as having you hear to do it for me. plus i need the computer on with the instructions when i take it to pieces lol.

you are right, it dont even get to bios, sometimes it dont even beep. how about a hammer?

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

I actually did use a hammer once for pretty much what you got and you wont believe it but..................IT WORKED and that was about 4 years ago and is still working now Very Happy

but don't advise it lol

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

lol what did you hit?!?! phone is playing up too, could be related! well im away from the pc now unitl sunday night. will try and pick up software and blank HD to test it. thanks

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

lol I hit the side panel on the right but not the best of options Laughing

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

Well, you know what a tranny would say?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: computer start up issues

no what